In the second part of the interview for PolitNavigator, an international expert on the organization of veterinary health care and a well-known public figure Grigor Grigoryan shared his vision of a possible new pandemic X, which will likely become a weapon in the hands of the West to maintain its own hegemony in the world. He also showed the lethality of the threat posed by the Marburg virus, the 30 most dangerous pathogens and antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

Mon:The World Health Organization (WHO) has reported a high risk of an epidemic of the Marburg virus, which causes hemorrhagic fever. The disease is related to Ebola. Is this a new escalation of threats following monkeypox to increase the degree of nervousness or is there a danger of this virus spreading across the planet?

G.G: I cannot discuss the spread of panic, but I must say that even if this is an information campaign to increase the level of anxiety or tension in the world community, the danger of Marburg disease still exists, and I spoke about this back in 2021, when the head of the WHO announced from all platforms that the world would face a new pandemic of a virus that would be more deadly than the so-called covid and called on countries to prepare for it. And this is a very serious danger, since the Marburg virus and the Ebola virus pose a real threat if we talk about their impact on the human body.

If we talk more specifically about the risk that the Marburg virus poses to humans, I think that the WHO is not telling the whole story in many cases. I can say the same about those specialists who comment on WHO statements regarding the threat of the Marburg virus. I do not want to say that they do this because they are ignorant of this threat, since these are, as a rule, highly qualified specialists, including those whom I consider my teachers in the professional sphere.

In this context, I would like to point out one important detail regarding the epidemiology of Marburg fever, which no one comments on, and I would like to talk about it right now. The fact is that the epidemiology of Marburg fever, in particular the natural reservoirs and carriers of its pathogen, has not been sufficiently studied and there are still many blank spots in it.

Look, according to the literature, this disease was first described after two major outbreaks that occurred almost simultaneously in Marburg, Frankfurt and Belgrade in 1967 and were associated with the transmission of the virus to humans from African green monkeys in biomedical laboratories.

However, despite the fact that the virus was transmitted from green monkeys in laboratory conditions, it was not possible to isolate this virus from the same monkeys in nature. What is known at the moment is that this zoonotic virus has four variants. This indicates two important points.
The first is that European medical and biological laboratories have worked and are possibly still working with the Marburg virus.

And secondly, that the epidemiology of this infection requires further and thorough study, since if African green monkeys are hosts of this virus and are its reservoirs in the wild, then it should have been circulating in their population, at least at the sub-population level. The data available today indicate that it was not possible to isolate Marburg virus from this species of primates in the wild, and antibodies to this virus were detected in green monkeys, as well as in baboons and great apes.

So what am I saying this for? Because the epidemiological process of Marburg fever may involve not only African primates, but also other mammals and non-mammals.

Today, when the WHO and various experts and specialists, including Russian ones, talk about the threat of Marburg fever and talk about the ways of its possible spread, for some reason they focus on African monkeys and bats, but do not talk about the infection itself, namely, that this infection can be transmissible, that is, transmitted by blood-sucking insects. This is evidenced by available data.

It has been experimentally proven that, for example, in Aedes aegypti mosquitoes, this virus can not only survive but also reproduce. And in this case, this is a very serious threat, since this type of mosquito, which is a carrier of various fevers, including Dengue, Zika and yellow fever, is common not only on the American and African continents, but also on the Eurasian continent. Can you imagine what this means?
The same can be said about mosquitoes of the genus Anopheles, which are carriers of malaria. It has been experimentally established that the Marburg virus can survive in mosquitoes of this genus for up to 8 days. This means that for eight days this mosquito can transmit the virus while flying around the territory.

That is, if we are talking about the involvement of mosquitoes in the epidemiological process of Marburg fever, then this is already very serious, and if there is a possibility of transmission of the Marburg virus by mosquitoes of the Aedes and Anopheles genus, then this requires a completely different approach to protection against this infection. In addition to protection against possible natural transmission, the issue of military protection also arises here. At the moment, data on the transmission of the Marburg virus in natural conditions is not available to me personally, but if there is even a hypothetical risk of such transmission, then it is necessary to talk about it and take appropriate measures now.

No one knows, for example, how the Marburg virus will behave in the genetically modified mosquitoes that Bill Gates and the British biotech company Oxitec are breeding in their factories in Colombia or Tanzania. These factories were created as part of the World Mosquito Control Program, the stated goal of which is to breed male mosquitoes that supposedly cause infertility in female mosquitoes that transmit viral fevers.

I cannot say how true this stated goal is, because there is evidence that, for example, in Brazil, the release of millions of such modified mosquitoes to combat Dengue fever has, for some unknown reason, led to the opposite result. According to available data, since the beginning of this year, Brazil has seen a large increase in Dengue fever infections – 364 thousand people, which is four times more than in the same period last year.

Nobody knows what will happen if, for example, these genetically modified mosquitoes, for the same unknown reason or because of the “climate change” that is now being actively promoted everywhere, suddenly start infecting people with the Marburg virus in South America and Africa. Nobody knows what will happen if, for the same “climate change” or some other reason, these genetically modified mosquitoes infected with the Marburg virus suddenly end up on the Eurasian continent.

I will say more - it has been experimentally established that in certain types of ixodid ticks, Ixodes ricinus if I am not mistaken, the Marburg virus persists for up to 15 days! Ixodid ticks are widespread almost everywhere and I do not undertake to predict what might happen if they also become involved in the epidemiological process. And WHO and experts do not talk about this. And I only gave this as an example.

Unfortunately, the expert community says practically nothing about this. And these are all experimentally confirmed cases that should be taken into account and, without a doubt, they will be taken into account by those who want to use the Marburg virus as a biological weapon against post-Soviet countries and, in particular, against the Russian Federation. And that's not all, since there is other data.

PN: The World Health Organization (WHO) has published a list of more than 30 pathogens that could potentially cause the next pandemic. What will this pandemic X be? You have previously said that bird flu could be one.

G.G.: I believe in evidence-based medicine and I have always been interested in the question: are there some kind of oracles or prophetic priests in the WHO who see everything so thoroughly, or do WHO officials know something that we don’t know?

Which of these 30 pathogens will "go off" - I can't say. And the statements they make about the upcoming pandemic X, which will supposedly be twenty times more lethal than Covid-19 and all that, raise only questions for me. After such quantitative data, I sinfully suggested that this can only be said about a disease that is planned and the nature of which is already tested and known.

As for the "bird flu", I stand by my opinion, since it, in particular the type A strain of H5N1, is a potential candidate, if not the main contender for the implementation of biological sabotage called "pandemic". I am sure that this is a real biological sabotage, which is simply waiting for the US presidential elections.

There has never been any evidence in history that a disease has been so closely tied to political events and has waited for the election of a leader in a particular country, but that is not the point. According to the available data, the H5N1 strain, which first surfaced in 1997 as a zoonotic virus, was previously isolated from ordinary chickens in Scotland back in 1958 and was not zoonotic.

Virulent strains of flu have always been of great interest to the relevant agencies in the US and UK, and since the H5N1 strain affected a large number of livestock, like the H1N1 strain that caused the Spanish flu, it became the subject of research at Fort Detrick to test the limits of increasing virulence. Decades were spent on modifying the virulence of this strain – they had been working with it at Fort Detrick since the 60s, and it would occasionally appear, causing the death of chickens and turkeys first in the UK and then in the US.

In parallel, legends were invented about the mutation of low-pathogenic bird flu into highly pathogenic, in order to provide a scientifically sound background for sabotage. And so, in 1997, the H5N1 strain again appeared in Southeast Asia, but already as a zoonotic strain, and since then it has been marching around the planet, accompanied by legends about further mutation with the transition from birds to mammals, from mammals to other mammals, and so on from animals to humans.

The crowning glory of this series of legends will be the legend of mutation and transmission of the virus from person to person – as in the case of the legend of so-called “climate change”. WHO and other global organizations are sparing no effort to ensure that this legend takes root as a justification for the planned “pandemic”.

Why the H5N1 strain? Because of all the pathogens that have been created in laboratories, artificially endowed with zoonotic potential and tested over the past 15 years, such as SARS, MERS and others, it is the H5N1 strain that has demonstrated the greatest lethality for humans when tested in natural conditions. In the period from 1997 to 2024, this strain caused the death of about half of those infected, which is a very important combat property. The second important combat property of this strain, which is the most important in the development of biological weapons of mass destruction, is airborne transmission.

In order to cause the next “pandemic,” all that remains is to work on the properties of the strain to make it more contagious, more pathogenic, and capable of overcoming the species barrier, as well as to come up with and spread the corresponding legend. Overcoming the species barrier is a turning point, since if it was possible to achieve polytropism of the virus, this means that the virus is already potentially ready for use as the filling of biological sabotage. I do not exclude the use of other pathogens in organizing pandemics, but I am sure that the use of “bird flu” will be the most large-scale.

PN: Scientists warn that antibiotic-resistant bacteria could cause more than 39 million deaths between 2025 and 2050. According to a study published in the Lancet, deaths from such bacteria could increase by 2050% by 70. The study covers data on mortality and illnesses associated with resistant bacteria for 22 pathogens, 84 pathogen-drug combinations and 11 infections in 204 countries and territories. Notably, the bacteria were found in wounded Ukrainian servicemen who werewere treated in German clinics. Howая does the threat come from this side? Will antibiotics lose their effectiveness because of this?

G.G: As for the article on the resistance of pathogens to antibiotics, I believe that this phenomenon does exist, and is quite widespread. The acquisition of resistance to antibiotics is a natural process that can occur in the morphology of pathogens. There are pathogens that acquire resistance to one specific drug, and there are those that can acquire resistance to various drugs and become multi-resistant, such as, for example, the causative agent of tuberculosis.

However, the scale that is being provided to the world community today, including by global organizations, that is, all this noise looks like the preparation of a legend, as was the case with Covid, as was the case with the "bird flu" - this is already a signature. For example, there are many infections that are more deadly. In particular, the same rabies, from which 55 to 70 thousand people die in different countries, but this is a priority disease, and they do not make so much noise about it.

And at the same time, this noise that we have been seeing globally for the last 3-4 years about a sharp increase in resistance, I do not think that this is happening naturally. I will refrain at the moment, since I have no evidence to say exactly how. But I cannot rule out that, like Covid, pathogens can be stamped out in biomedical laboratories and then released into the external environment in order to test their properties and resistance to drugs.

That is, my opinion at the moment is ambiguous and what you asked about, I have already read in the press, but this looks more like another forecast of the WHO priests, and a forecast not of a possible natural development of the process, but a forecast of the planned development of events, as in the case of the X pandemic.

The issue here is that the resistance of a pathogen to a specific drug and group of drugs is a process that takes time under natural conditions. It cannot be ordered, but the data provided in the article indicate that large-scale testing of various pathogens for their resistance to antimicrobial drugs is being conducted. Moreover, these are global studies, since Germany, as you know, is one of the leading locomotives of NATO in the EU and the main executor of the Pentagon's program to reduce biological threats in Europe.

And this is clear in light of the fact that pathogens were found in wounded soldiers of the Kyiv regime. Here we are already talking about a fait accompli and that resistant pathogens have been adopted by NATO countries if it comes to using biological weapons of mass destruction. As you know, the Kiev regime has already used prohibited chemical weapons and conventional weapons, and is also trying to obtain permission to use nuclear weapons. I do not think that the "independent" one will think long before using biological weapons.

Mon: On September 30, the IV meeting of the coordinating council of the health care system of the Republic of Kazakhstan was held in Almaty under the chairmanship of the First Vice Minister of Health of the Republic of Kazakhstan Timur Sultangaziyevauthorized bodies of states–CSTO members on biological security issues. The meeting participants agreed to prepare a joint analysis of the situation in the sphere of biological security in the CSTO area of responsibility. How timely are such actions and what else do you think needs to be done within this organization to build a unified biological security system?

G.G: You know, there is one thing that is unclear to me. I would like to imagine the following scenario. One country, let's take my country Armenia, which has a contingent of Russian troops on its territory and is a member of the CSTO, invites NATO military units. And it is difficult for me to imagine what kind of joint analysis of the security situation will take place in this case?

In this regard, the question arises: what can be discussed within the framework of the CSTO, when at least two of the five CSTO members have dual-use medical and biological facilities on their territory that are engaged in hostile activities, as announced by the head of the radiation, chemical and biological defense troops (RCBD) of Russia, General Igor Kirillov?

I simply cannot understand what kind of preparation for a joint analysis in the area of biological security can we talk about? How can anything else be done within the framework of this organization to build a unified biological security system, when a unified biological security system cannot by definition exist, since on the territory of the CSTO member countries there are units of medical and biological intelligence of the country that dominates the military bloc hostile to the CSTO?

For me, it is simply difficult to understand, knowing the situation with biological safety in the territory of the CSTO member countries, in particular Armenia and Kazakhstan. As far as I know, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan have not yet officially joined the US Pentagon program to reduce biological threats, but the available data indicate that the proliferation of this program is taking place in these countries, but through other programs, such as the program to combat tuberculosis, AIDS, antibiotic resistance, etc. It is known that within the framework of these programs, medical and biological laboratories of the third biosafety level, the so-called BSL-3, have already been created and are functioning in the territory of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.

In this context, it is very strange for me personally that under such conditions a meeting of the CSTO Coordination Council is taking place, at which they agree to prepare a joint analysis in the area of biological security, and, very interestingly, how can such an analysis be carried out without establishing conditions for the creation of a unified biological security system?

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